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Ian Haycroft's avatar

Thanks Nur. One of your (many) gifts, despite that you seem to love pictures of gorillas 🙂 you are such a human! I read your stuff and I so often feel..."this guy is so like the guy I see in the morning mirror". There is a love to that. You are a bloody legend would be my other response.🙏🏼

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Nur Nadar's avatar

Thank you my friend 🙏🏼 🙏🏼 I really appreciate the reminders that what I’m posting remains authentic, despite the disdain for gorilla pictures 😂, and not posting for the sake of posting.

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Ian Haycroft's avatar

What's not to love about Gorillas! I LOVE the pictures.😜

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Eleni Rizopoulou's avatar

Haha, loved this, who doesn’t need more bros in their life?

I particularly enjoyed your “ultimate goal being to help each other become better men through genuine, vulnerable conversation.” 🙌😄

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Nur Nadar's avatar

Thanks Eleni! Can’t go wrong with more bros, that’s for sure 🤣

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John Stuckey's avatar

Any chance of attending one of your meetings, to get a better idea of what you're talking about? If you read a few of my Substack essays, you can get an idea about where I'm coming from. Here's one that seems relevant. Please read it carefully, so that you don't assume anything about my own struggles around the question. https://jstuckey.substack.com/p/on-identity-politics-20 And here's another one that is more general in nature. https://jstuckey.substack.com/p/on-our-primal-instinct-for-connection So lemme know if it would work to attend a meeting. Thanks.

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Nur Nadar's avatar

Gotcha! Unfortunately, we closed off our meetings. I’d be happy to answer any questions you might have, though.

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John Stuckey's avatar

Thanks. Unfortunately, at 75, I don't think I'm up to the task of being a leader of a group, but I enjoy being a member. I participate in monthly meetings with a group centered around the ideas of Daniel Quinn. I highly recommend him, especially his novel, 'Ishmael,' a gorilla who communicated telepathically with a man who goes on to be a proselytizer of Ishmael's ideas. Anyway, I hope you and/or your group take a look at some of my other essays, which are focused on the necessity of us returning to our ancient (pre-Civilization) understandings and modes of living, since 'soon' industrial civilization will collapse, when the resources on which it depends become sufficiently depleted. Believe it or not, using that lens helps make sense of the various forms of trauma we have suffered and continue to suffer, in hierarchical, patriarchal societies that have almost destroyed the primal instincts which allowed us to succeed as a species for thousands of generations. Anyway, I wish you and your group all the best. Peace.

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Juan Gonzalez's avatar

Ha

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Sudana Krasniqi's avatar

Fuck no I don’t

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Nur Nadar's avatar

😂😂😂

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Nick Neve's avatar

King Arthur and the knights of the (digital) round table

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Nur Nadar's avatar

We ride at dawn!!

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Maggie Jon's avatar

I'm planning to do something similar soon, though probably more loose to start with. Well done!

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Nur Nadar's avatar

That’s awesome! Keep me in the loop I’d love to follow your journey

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Maggie Jon's avatar

Will do 😊

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Annie Hendrix's avatar

I am proud of you as a fellow human for doing this! Brave and vulnerable and much needed ❤️

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Nur Nadar's avatar

Thanks Annie! Really appreciate you saying that

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John Stuckey's avatar

Actually, here's the essay I should have sent to you.

https://jstuckey.substack.com/p/on-humans-as-animals-attempt-4

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Nur Nadar's avatar

Thank you, JT! That means a lot. There’s already enough of that nonsense out there and none of it would be conducive to our growth.

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Joel Goodnough's avatar

Who needs more nonsense?

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